Why Would You Remake a Classic? Let's Play Super Robot Wars 2 and All of its Remakes

What game is this?
This is Super Robot Wars 2G (the G stands for Gleam). This is the 1995 remake of the 1991 Super Robot Wars 2. The original was for the Famicom, and the remake that we’re playing is for the Gameboy. SRW2 and by extension 2G, is the start of the classic series of Super Robot Wars. Back when it was made by WinkySoft, had no problems being “Nintendo Hard” and decided that simple things like continuity between entries in the series didn’t matter.

Speaking of continuity, 2G attempted to fix a few things to make the continuity work better, but ultimately was ignored when SRW 4 was remade into SRW F and F Final. Fortunately, it has the much improved battle system from Super Robot Wars 4 where you are actually allowed to select your counterattack, instead of setting an automatic response type that applied to all your units.

Why LP this game?
Because SRW 30 is coming out in 2 months, and it contains Victory Gundam, and so does this game!

No, the real reason is that I’m a completionist at heart. While the SRW franchise is too large for me to play in its entirety, I figured I could play the Classic series. That consists of SRW 2/2G, 3, EX, and 4/F+F final. This part of the franchise doesn’t get much love due to how old and janky it is. I wrapped up my SRW 1 LP that I used as a practice run, so it’s time to jump into this series.

Why does this intro block feel oddly familiar?
Because I shamelessly stole it from the great LPer of SRW, Brunom. If I can provide even a fraction of the utility and joy that he has given the SRW community, I will have succeeded.

What series are in this game?
Mobile Suit Gundam
Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam
Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ
Mobile Suit Gundam: Char’s Counterattack
Mobile Suit Gundam F91
Mazinger Z
Great Mazinger
UFO Robot Grendizer [First appearance in SRW 2]
Getter Robo
Getter Robo G
Banpresto Originals [First appearance in SRW 2]
Mobile Suit Victory Gundam [First appearance in SRW 2G]
Mobile Fighter G Gundam [First appearance in SRW 2G]

How will you play this game?
Like all of my LPs, on and off platform, it will be a video LP. I know it isn’t too conducive for interaction in the forum, but I’m hoping to do a few things to get more audience participation.

Unlike the original SRW 2, 2G has route splits. I know almost all SRW LPs take all splits, using alternative saves to make that work. However, I will not be doing that. For narrative reasons, I have already selected my route ahead of time. Don’t worry, the other route is not going to be ignored. This game does not have a NG+ feature. However, I will build my own, with blackjack and hookers actually with cheat codes, and I’ll cover the route splits we don’t take on the NG+ run.

Audience Participation
The classic series is infamously hard. In fact, when I first mentioned I had a silly idea for what to do with SRW 2G on a SRW Discord, the first response was that SRW 2G is not forgiving of “silly ideas”, before I could even share what my ideas were.

  1. Fan Favorite: While the classic series is hard, I don’t believe it’s so hard that I need to minmax my playthrough, and bringing along a sub-optimal unit will be fine. bold your vote. I’ll be keeping a running tally, not asking for votes after each mission. You can change your vote at any time. The favorite will be kept up level wise, and given some upgrade love. Not too much during the first playthrough, but I’ll be much more free with money on NG+.

  2. Deadpool: SRW 2G has the entire Shrike Team in the game. Maybe not all of it, but eight members of it, and that’s more than your deployment limit at the start of the game. This is highly impractical, as they’re all in grunt units, and don’t really stand out as pilots. They won’t be introduced for a few more stages. Once they do, you can send a Streamlabs tip, or subscribe or cheer on my twitch channel. You can either send money to kill someone from the Shrike Team, or to protect them. When someone has $5 more in death cash than protection cash, they will be given a brutal on-camera death, and I will treat it as a perma-kill.

I’ve read and reread the rules and guidelines, and I don’t see any mention of not being allowed to monetize LPs. However, If I missed something, please bring it to my attention and I’ll edit this to get it in compliance.

  1. Second Victory: We will get a second Victory Gundam as one of the secrets. Let me know who you want to be the pilot of it. Same rules as the Fan Favorite. Votes persist, but you can change your vote at any time.

Spoiler Policy: Please don’t spoil the plot of the game (what little there is the unified story). However, please feel free to spoil stuff from the shows, especially once something has already happened on-screen.

Mission List
*Mission 1: League Militaire
*Mission 2: Tragedy of Woowig
*Mission 3: Rescue Zeta Gundam

Bonus
Deadpool
Unit and Pilot Database

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Deadpool

Victory Gundam is directed by Yoshiyuki Tomino, famously known as kill-em-all Tomino. The Shrike team is a group of mostly women pilots that die in really unfortunate ways in the series. As much as I wish that there was a secret that lets you save some of them, and ideally something like a series of secrets that require multiple runs, letting you save more on each subsequent run, until you get a perfect end where you save all of them. SRW 2G instead has all of them survive by default. You can vote through subs, bits, or streamlabs donations on my twitch channel. You can donate either to save or to kill someone. $5 more in death buck over save bucks will result in that character being defeated on-screen, and then perma-benched (the closest I can do to actually perma-killing a unit in SRW).

Your options:

Oliver Inoue:

Kill: 0
Save: 0

Marbet Fingerhat

Kill: 0
Save: 0

Junko Jenko

Kill: 0
Save: $1.55

Kate Bush

Kill: 0
Save: 0

Mahalia Merrill

Kill: 0
Save: $2

Helen Jackson

Kill: $5.03
Save: 0

Peggy Lee

Kill: 0
Save: 0

Connie Francis

Kill: 0
Save: 0

There are four more characters that will be added to this list once we get them.

Unit and Pilot Database
I’ll be updating this post with unit and pilot info as we encounter them, although probably with some delays compared to the main releases.

Mission 1: League Militaire

Mission 1: Youtube - Rumble

Let’s start off a new LP with a bang, or at least a field of destroyed mobile suits.

In this episode, we start of with Usso Ewin facing off against Chronicle Asher, in a scene taken straight from Episode 1 of V Gundam. Unlike the anime, we actually shoot down Chronicle, instead of simply forcing him to retreat. Then the reinforcements arrive, and we get a bunch of allies to help shoot down some grunts.

Also, I keep forgetting that the bad guys from V Gundam are the Zanscare Empire. However, in here, they’re just part of the Divine Crusaders (DC).

Vote!:
Who do you want to be the fan favorite pilot? Usso, Amuro, Kouji, Sayaka, The Getter Team, Bright? Mark your vote in bold

Lastly. I will be streaming episode 3 on my Twitch channel this Thursday (August 19) at 9PM PDT. That’s midnight August 20th EDT. Adjust time zones locally as needed. I have a guest host scheduled, and a crazy idea on top of the other things I’ve already mentioned it. I’ve spoiled it to a few people on Discord, but if you love Super Robot Wars, you should stop by, I aim to impress.

If you’re seeing this, I’d appreciate it if you stopped by. I’m planning something crazy, and I hope it will be fun. Stop by to see it now, or wait until Saturday next week for the polished and edited version. Stream starts at 9PM PDT, I hope to see you there.

Mission 2: Tragedy of Woowig

Hosts: Rumble, Odysee, Youtube

A nice and simple stage, with a unique retreat condition for the boss.

Metchet Rubence will retreat if there are less than four enemy units left on the stage. We see Fuala Griffon, in the cutscenes, but she is just a passenger in Metchet’s Recarl.

Starting today, SRW 2G will released every Saturday, unless I manage to fall behind editing.

Mission 3: Rescue Zeta Gundam

This mission reveals exactly what my crazy imagination has been up to, and why releases are only going to be once a week, and why it’s possible that I’ll slip on that release schedule. It’s split up into two parts because I was afraid I wouldn’t have it all done for today. I’m still working on editing together a compressed version.

Part 1: Rumble, Odysee, Youtube

Part 2: Rumble, Odysee, Youtube

In this mission, we decide to rescue Kamille instead of waiting for the Shrike Team. MightyPretenders asked how could anyone go wrong with Amuro, and I show exactly how. Fortunately, we’re saved by a time warp. Unfortunately we continue to be stuck in that very same time warp. How many times must we rescue Kamille? How many times must one not care to admit to the mistakes of ones youth?

I’ll be updating the Deadpool post now that we have seen the Shrike Team.

Fan Favorite Tally: Add your votes!
(Note, this LP is crossposted on Something Awful, LP Zone, LP Beach, and Giant ITP)
Getter Team: JamieTheD(LPB), tyckspoon (GITP)
Amuro: MightPretenders (SA)

Vote!
Keep voting for your fan favorite.
Also, vote for which member of the Shrike team gets to use the second V Gundam that we unlocked.

Mission 3: Rescue Zeta Gundam (combined video)

So, if you thought I wasn’t crazy enough with my last post, revealing that I actually want to play three classic era games simultaneously, I also went ahead and edited them together so you can watch me LP all three games simultaneously. The first 30ish minutes are the same between this and 3-1 from the last post, and then the fun begins after that.

Mission 3 (combined): Rumble, Odysee, Youtube

Please give me feedback on this video. I know my editing sucked on this one, and I have ideas to make episode 4 better. However, I’d like to know if this idea is something that even interests people. It took a lot of time to edit this video, but much of that is due to the fact that I have done actual video editing (and not just cutting down twitch streams to play on youtube) since 2008, and I’m rusty as hell (and also using FOSS editing software instead of pirating premium editing software). I’ll get faster with more practice. However, if the idea doesn’t interest anyone, I may just drop it and stick to the sequential format from earlier.

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Streaming SRW 2G , and maybe 2 or 2CB afterwards. We’ll be getting our first permadeath since Helen has hit the death threshold.

https://www.twitch.tv/Bring_Stabity

No new episode tomorrow. I had a busy week (and somehow managed to accomplish nothing), and I don’t have the raw footage, let alone the editing. Plus, I’m out camping for this long weekend. See you next Saturday.

Streaming some Super Robot Wars 2, followed by 2 Complete Box. Then either Luigi’s Mansion or Creeper world, depending on how much time I have left and what I feel like.
https://www.twitch.tv/Bring_Stabity

Mission 4: Trick City (sequential videos)

Hosts: Rumble, Odysee, Youtube

With Kamille rescued, it’s time to head down to Madrid to resupply. However, our good friend Admiral Ackbar points out that “It’s a trap!”

The people of Madrid have been taken hostage by DC, and Michiru is forced to fight us in the Getter Queen. She barely puts up a fight. However, it’s enough to claim the life of our first Shrike Team Member, Helen Jackson. RIP Helen. Yes, I know your ghost is still haunting the pilot roster, but she’s definitely not selectable. No sir. Still, grieving her loss, we move on to dealing with Jerrid Mesa and Ramba Ral.

However, Amuro discovered something strange

:siren: Secrets :siren:

SRW 2:
There is a shop near your starting position. It is the only place in the game to get a biosensor, and the only place to see, but never buy, the Minovsky Particles item as well.
If you don’t destroy Getter Q, she will join you as an uncontrollable allied unit until the end of stage on turn 3, then leave permanently.

SRW 2 CB:
If you don’t destroy Getter Q, she will join you permanently on turn 3.
Have Amuro land on the hangar with the blue rollup door in the city to have a conversation with Kai, and get the G Parts.

SRW 2G:
If you don’t destroy Getter Q, she will join you permanently on turn 3. You will also take the alternate stage route, and go to Gibraltar instead of Dakar. We are going to Dakar to keep to the same path as the original, as Gibraltar is a 2G exclusive.

Episode 4: Combined

Like with Episode 3, this is the combined video of all three versions of the game playing simultaneously.

Preferred Hosts: Rumble, Odysee
Youtube

See the post above for all the secrets.

Streaming some SRW 2 and 2 Complete Box, so I have footage for my episode on Saturday
https://www.twitch.tv/bring_stabity

Mission 5: Supremacy Over Dakar (sequential videos)

This is the sequential version of these videos. The simultaneously edited version will be released next Saturday.

Preferred Hosts: Rumble, Odysee
Regular Host: Youtube

I tried editing this video to avoid getting content ID claims on Mazinger Z’s Theme, and I managed to miss one and still get the claim. I’m annoyed. I didn’t want to risk it with F91’s theme since that’s a movie, and it looks like I was successful in that regard at least.

With Michiru defeated, we continue along the “canon” path, heading to Dakar to weaken DC’s hold on the Federation capital. There, we encounter a lot of enemies: The Black Tri-Stars, Toros “I give a lot of money” D7, a squad of Hygoggs (the only representation 0080 has in SRW2), Char, Lalah (original and CB only), as well as Garma and Chronicle (G only). We can see some more rifts growing between the canon story and the Gleam version. In the original and complete box, we turn Lalah into sweet money and EXP. RIP Lalah, you could have been a mother to Char, and in G, we instead help Char get vengeance on the Zabi family.

Be careful, if Garma is the last unit you kill, you will not get the last wave of reinforcements.

:siren: Secret Alert :siren:

SRW 2 and 2CB: Amuro can convince Lalah, and have her join your forces. She will only join for a few stages, and leave on mission 7 (9 by our reckoning).

SRW 2G: We lost our chance to recruit Lalah by defeating Getter Q.

Fan Favorite Tally: Add your votes!
(Note, this LP is crossposted on Something Awful, LP Zone, LP Beach, and Giant ITP)
Getter Team: JamieTheD(LPB), tyckspoon (GITP)
Amuro: MightPretenders (SA)

Extra Victory Gundam Pilot: Add your votes!
Mahalia: ZappaSlave (YT)

Vote!
Keep voting for your fan favorite.
Also, vote for which member of the Shrike team gets to use the second V Gundam that we unlocked.

Mission 5: Combined
Same as previously. This is all three versions of Supremacy Over Dakar in an edited video to play simultaneously. Also, it’s the first one of my videos to not get a content ID claim on Mazinger’s theme from the Complete Box.

Preferred Hosts: Rumble, Odysee
Regular Host: Youtube

See the above post for secret details and voting options.

Mission 6: Strike Back
All three versions, back to back. I’ve made some improvements to my voice track. I got a better mount and pop filter for the mic, don’t have headphones connected to it anymore so the cable doesn’t hit the mic, and I’ve done some basic audio post-processing. Let me know if it sounds better.

Preferred Hosts: Rumble, Odysee
Regular Host: Youtube

The Empire Strikes Back. I mean The Divine Crusaders Strike Back. DC forces, led by Jerid, Kacricon, and the Black Tri-stars, have returned to try to take back the Federation’s capitol after we conquered it last mission. They fail, but not without inflicting casualties on us. We lose two units, and one of those is even a permadeath (by coincidence, not by planning). We also lose out on some bonus dialogue with the Black Tri-stars because I let Seabook slaughter Gaia without a second thought.

Vote:
Fan Favorite Tally: Add your votes!
(Note, this LP is crossposted on Something Awful, LP Zone, LP Beach, and Giant ITP)
Getter Team: JamieTheD(LPB), tyckspoon (GITP)
Amuro: MightPretenders (SA)

Extra Victory Gundam Pilot: Add your votes!
Mahalia: ZappaSlave (YT)

Vote!
Keep voting for your fan favorite.
Also, vote for which member of the Shrike team (or any other Gundam pilot) gets to use the second V Gundam that we unlocked.

Come join a live stream of part of the next episode. Stream is live, and will be starting soon.
https://www.twitch.tv/Bring_Stabity

Mission 6: Combined
Same as previously. This is all three versions of Strike Back in an edited video to play simultaneously. Also, it’s the first one of my videos to not get a content ID claim on Mazinger’s theme from the Complete Box.

Preferred Hosts: Rumble, Odysee
Regular Host: Youtube
See the above post for voting options.