That is… certainly an interesting pile of words they wrote there. I can’t believe I read the words, “the devil is a wimp” outside of a shitpost or a different SMT walkthrough.
Oh no, that’s definitely not me. My twitter is http://twitter.com/TimrodDX. I know exactly which guide he’s talking about though - it’s the “spoiler-free” one that’s full of bad information. That guide is actually the reason I missed the Hanako sidequest at Seven Sisters, because he doesn’t mention you have to do it before you fight Hanya.
At least I know if the Christian fundamentalists hate it, I’m playing the right game.
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: The next few screenshots will be a little off, but that’s because I was messing with my capture card. I left Kasugayama High to go to the Velvet Room and fuse some new Personas, since most of the party’s starter ones were at MAX rank.
New Persona: Minotaur
First Appearance: Megami Tensei (NES)
: Despite his garbage resistances, Minotaur has some pretty decent stats and has a fusion spell that is unique to him and two other Personas.
: You might notice that Minotaur is level 15 while Eikichi is only level 11. Persona 2 gives you five levels of leeway when equipping new Personas. I don’t know why none of the other Persona games (not counting 5, which has no limit whatsoever) do this.
New Persona: Kinnara
First Appearance: Megami Tensei II (NES)
: I had a metric shitload of Star cards from negotiating, so I made Kinnara for Yukino. Kinnara’s not a bad Persona: decent stats, decent resistances, and keeps the fire element going so I can keep spamming Mega Blaze to win fights. Persona 2 is also the last game in which Kinnara appears.
New Persona: Surya
Persona 2 Original
: Surya goes to Tatsuya, again so I can keep Mega Blaze up. The fact that it learns Magaru is a nice bonus. I also love that Surya is basically a coat rack. I wish I had a talking coat rack that could light things on fire.
New Persona: Robin Goodfellow
Persona 2 Original
: Oh hey, it’s Robin Goodfellow, only without his ability to steal half the enemy’s money. He’s basically an upgraded version of Lisa’s starting Persona and will be crucial to a new Fusion spell.
: Once we’re done fusing, it’s time to head back to the gym.
: You might ask why everyone has a laser coming out of their heads. This is something that we’ve actually seen before, but that the game expects you know more about than you probably actually do. The lasers are basically people’s hopes and dreams.
: You can’t see it because it’s a flashing effect, but Maya starts emitting lasers until Tatsuya takes the mask off.
: “What the hell is Yasuo doing!? Isn’t that the same kinda skull Joker had!?”
: They really didn’t explain this well enough in the cutscene in Sumaru Prison, or maybe it’s just that it’s been a few weeks, but basically Joker works by draining people’s hopes and dreams which turns them into shadows. Honestly, this sounds more like an episode of some kid’s TV show than it does a JRPG that’s supposed to take itself at least somewhat seriously.
: “Yasuo, you smug prick! What’re you doing!? Quit it with the skull!”
: “Wait! C’mon, Tatsuya, let’s go after him!”
: Kind of a neat reference that there’s students from St. Hermelin here.
: I spent some time inside Cuss High ranking up the new Personas. The guide recommends being Level 13 for the boss, which is complete overkill (and also how you know the author was using an emulator with the speed-up key held down).
: I returned all of the old Personas off-screen, and one of the items I got out of it is an accessory that tells you when you have the ability to cast fusion spells that you don’t know the combination for.
: Stone Rise is kind of garbage unless the enemy is really weak to Earth and immune to fire. It’s activated using an Earth, Wind, and Fire spell in some combination I forget exactly what. This means you’re using three characters to cast one spell when you could instead use Blazing Burst and Pegasus Strike for more damage.
: Our next destination is the roof, on the 4th floor. There is a sidequest we could pick up here but I’m purposely not taking it. Why, you ask? The sidequest spawns a mini-boss called Bukimi (the toilet ghost). Bukimi has Hula of Misfortune and will use it far more frequently than Robin Goodfellow. The reward is some garbage healing items.
: Heading north at the fork bring us to the roof entrance. The south route is more useless NPCs, and I think one of them is the one that spawns the Bukimi sidequest.
: I get that it’s been somewhere between a few hours and a day since we entered the bomb shelter, but where the hell is Yasuo getting all these radios?
: “You bastard… what’s your game, making everyone into shadowmen!?”
: “A service!?”
: I like that Tatsuya just walks around the corner and finds him. He didn’t even try to hide between the building and the fence.
: “Screw that noise! Who would want in on a plan that shady!? If you have time to waste blabbering about crap like that, hurry and turn everyone back to normal!”
: “Just hand over the skull and that’ll be enough. We’ll figure it out ourselves.”
: I killed Yasuo so fast that this is the only attack he got off. I killed him so fast that I actually forgot to take a shot of his Persona.
: Yasuo’s Persona is Shax, or more precisely “Reverse Shax” since Persona 2 digs further into the whole tarot theme than most of the other games.
: Yasuo is extremely weak to fire and to earth, meaning we can spam Stone Rise to do ridiculous amounts of damage. I would’ve used Blazing Burst and Pegasus Strike instead, but Eikichi got put to sleep and didn’t wake up before the fight was over.
: Once he takes enough damage, Yasuo will heal himself… for around half of one Stone Rise. He has way less HP than Hanya did.
: “Hey, Yasuo!”
: “You’re in Joker’s organization, right? Why’s he harvesting people’s ideals?”
: “That’s… from some kid’s game that shows up in my dreams…”
: “And Lady Scorpio is an executive of this ‘Masked Circle’?”
: “Stealing dreams for personal advancement… I’ve got no sympathy for this asshole.”
: It’s weird to me how much this game, as a direct sequel to Persona 1, focuses on the whole ideals thing when it wasn’t in P1 at all.
: The game goes through every character’s portrait in the inverted colors here, but I couldn’t capture it all.
: When we were in Zodiac, there were a few NPCs who mentioned Lady Scorpio. Guess we know who she is now… though why she’s still bothering to wear a mask when we know who she is underneath, I don’t know.
: Anna then starts teleporting around and whipping people.
: “This skull can only be controlled by those bearing the constellation of the holy cross.”
: “… Is this all?”
: “Wh…Who the hell are you!?”
: You can’t see it, but Leo just disintegrated Yasuo when he appeared.
: “For one so lowly to confess Masked Circle business to outsiders and abandon the shadowed festival… You deserve death!”
: What is this, an ICP concert?
: “I could say the same thing about you, Lady. What do you have to say in your defense after the recent debacles? Not only did you let the wild dance slide, you abandoned the shadowed festival to vermin.”
: “If you wish to be present to witness the fulfillment of the Oracle of Maia, I suggest you accept the Exalted One’s punishment…”
: Leo honestly sounds like if you took an AI and fed it the scripts to a couple of fantasy RPGs.
: “…Yukino is mine. Leave her alone.”
: “…Very well. But you will deal with the consequences of the party’s interruption.”
: Why is that Leo and Scorpio can teleport? As far as I know they’re just Persona users who also are vampires that eat people’s hopes and dreams. Seriously, I want a JRPG where the party can teleport just to fuck with villains that pull that shit.
: “Cursed Star… I will see you and the witch sent to Purgatory, just as the lowly one was a moment ago.”
: It really seems like the game expects me to have read something or played Eternal Punishment beforehand, even though Innocent Sin comes first in the duology.
: “So this King Leo guy has been stalking you for years, Maya-san!?”
: “My Persona told me so… it’s him! There’s no mistaking it!”
: “A pyromaniac… Kehhei! That’s the worst!”
: I also don’t understand how they know he’s a pyromaniac.
: “Don’t worry… I’m okay now. we need to think about what to do next…”
: “Remember how that King guy told Anna to ‘deal with the consequences’? That’s been bugging me ever since…”
: “Let’s go back to the gym. I have a bad feeling about this!”
: “Kehhei! This is terrible! What is this Oracle of Maia anyway, that makes the Masked Circle do such horrible things!?”
: “Yasuo’s dead, too… does this mean we’ve hit a wall in our search for Joker!?”
: “Guys, wherever rumors are, Joker’s there too, right? Let’s go out in the city and ask people for rumors about the Masked Circle and Joker! I’m sure we’ll learn something new!”
: There’s now a bit of side content we have to do before we can progress the plot.
: The first thing we want to do is head to Gatten Sushi in Kameya Alley, where we’ll meet up with a familiar face from Persona 1.
: Meet Eikichi’s dad. Eikichi’s dad is a gigantic asshole.
: This is another thing that makes Eikichi SO MUCH BETTER WRITTEN than Kanji was. How many times did you ever see Kanji getting made fun of for liking sewing? Zero, that’s how many.
: “Y-Yes, Sir!? D-Daddy-o… I-I mean, Dad… hear me out! Th-there’s a good explanation for this!”
: “I was practicing for a costume party! R-right, Tatsuya!? It’s for the school festival! It’s not like I always dress like this!”
: I don’t quite understand how he explains the blue hair - I’m pretty sure his hair is dyed and not one of those anime things where it’s actually that color.
: “Ha! Hahaha…! C-Come on, Dad… d-don’t be ridiculous…!”
: “Let’s GO, Tatsuya,kun. We gotta get the hell outta… I mean, get back to practice!”
: This actually isn’t as impressive, nor does it make quite as much sense as it sounds like it does. Karate has a pretty universal ranking system where you have 10 lower belts and then 10 ranks of black belt: but the top two ranks are pretty much reserved for the master of any given school of karate and students they’ve personally taught.
: Capoeira has 11 ranks, but only 10 of those are attainable (and realistically, it’s probably fewer than that). Just like with Karate, the highest rank is reserved for the head of the school.
: Judo has eleven grades of black belt, but the eleventh grade is reserved for the head of the school and only fifteen people have ever been awarded a 10th-degree black belt in Japan. Most of them are dead, and some were only awarded that honor posthumously.
: We can therefore come to the conclusion that Eikichi’s dad really isn’t as much of a badass as he says he is. I used to take Taekwondo back in middle school and there were like, 14 year olds with black belts in that. I stopped after I found out the guy training everyone was an avid gun owner. Never take martial arts lessons from a gun owner. Anyway, right near the counter…
: Meet Kenta Yokouchi, aka Toro. Toro was a minor character in Snow Queen back in Persona 1. It’s funny that he’d be a good salesman because his Persona is uh…
: “Hey folks! Great to be back in yet another Persona game!”
: Anyway, Toro is our second rumormonger, and he has a couple of useful ones.
: This one in particular. Each store in the game has… four sets of rumors I believe. There’s “prices are high but they’re high quality”, “prices and quality are both average”, “prices are low but the quality is bad”, and one about “they have a wide selection but terrible buyback prices”.
: This one is BY FAR the most useful. Why, you ask? It gets you the best weapons at a price that’s not all that much more expensive than usual. That, and once you’ve spread a rumor about a shop, you can’t un-spread it or spread a different one.
: Once we’re done with that, we have to go talk to Chikarin again.
: Kounan is a whole new area we can visit, so let’s do that.
: The Abandoned Factory is a particularly interesting location. It’s basically Innocent Sin’s equivalent to the Mikage Ruins or Devil’s Peak in Persona 1 - that is to say, a giant dungeon where you can fight every demon you’ve run into before. While it’s not nearly as important here (because demons give generic tarot cards instead of spell cards) there’s still some good stuff in there.
: Chikarin told us to go to the fortune teller, which is in Sumaru Genie. Before we do that, we’re going to head to the healer - the neat thing about P2 is that rather than all the healers being doctor’s offices, they’re different types of what I guess you could consider self-care: the one in Hirasaka near Cuss High is a tanning salon.
: If you haven’t read the Persona 1 LP, Maki is a major character in the SEBEC route who also shows up briefly near the end of Snow Queen. Because Hanya is dead, we’ll see some more of her later.
: This also confirms that the Snow Queen route is canon, because Maki is never in the same party as Yukino in the SEBEC route. I like to think that Jihei is sitting in an office somewhere with a trophy for doing Thanatos Tower first.
: Our next stop is the Kounan Police Department, where we meet with this guy. He’s one of the reasons you want to stick with Tatsuya’s canon name.
: Katsuya absolutely looks like he’d be in one of the early SMT games as a demon disguised as a human trying to tempt you into going down the Chaos route.
: He’s not the reason we’re here,though. One thing I missed in this update is that if you look behind where Yukino is, there’s a dog statue. That dog statue works like the lucky cat in the Kuzunoha Agency except it’s better because you get two sets of incense for 10,000 yen instead of just one.
: This is. Talking to the little boy next to this old homeless lady starts up the “Dresser Hag” sidequest.
: You then need to leave the police department and come back in to talk to him again.
: I’m going to skip over some stuff for now. We can’t actually go to Kuzunoha right now without going to Sumaru Genie and one other location, but I want to put this all together.
: This is the Abandoned Factory. You’ll notice the piece of paper on the floor ahead. The factory has notes scattered throughout it and you’ll want to read them all.
: So yeah, the implication is that the factory closed not because of poor performance but because it’s a breeding ground for demons.
: The only place we can get to right now is the service entrance, so let’s head there.
: There’s an Agility Incense right near the entrance, in a red toolbox. This honestly looks like half the maps in City of Heroes and is giving me horrible flashbacks.
: The Dresser Hag is something we want to do because it’s a level 35 miniboss, which guarantees a free levelup for the entire party.
: While it’s got 75% resistance to pretty much everything, the Dresser Hag only has 1 MDEF. For some reason, Atlus cut its stats in half for the PSP re-release.
: The hag mostly attacks with “fire breath” and “ice breath” which are just reskins of Agilao (second tier full-party fire spell) and Mabufula (second tier full-party ice spell), respectively.
: The Dresser Hag is a pretty easy fight, and also gives more than enough EXP to make up for not fighting the boss in Zodiac.
: South from the entrance is another incense in a cabinet.
: What happened when I recorded, by the way, was that I went right to the factory forgetting that you have to spread the rumor first.
: I also picked up a couple of rumors off the genie, including these two which I wind up spreading as soon as we can reach Todoroki again. It’s probably a good idea to do that and go shopping before fighting the Dresser Hag.
: Next up is Honmaru Park.
: Eikichi’s just asking for it.
: And he’s on the ground for the uh… it’s been at least three times since we met him. I wonder if you can get owned so hard your Persona breaks.
: No guesses on what the theme of the next dungeon is going to be.
: Right now though, what we’re interested in is this guy.
: Toku-san is our last rumormonger, and only really has one rumor that might be worth it.
: If you really want to cheese the game, what you can do is spread this rumor about the magazine sweepstakes. This gives you the best possible prizes. What you can do is abuse the hell out of savestates to get some very good equipment (just remember to save BEFORE buying any sweepstakes magazines as the RNG is calculated when you buy them) especially if you’re using savestates on an emulator.
: I’ll get on that as soon as someone can tell me where the savestate button is on this thing.
: “Tamaki-san doesn’t know either.”
: I don’t know if Lisa is modeled after an idol of some sort or not, but given how horny Atlus was for idols in the 90s (especially Satomi Tadashi) I wouldn’t be surprised if she was and Eikichi saying this is some kind of in-joke.
: If you hate Satomi Tadashi’s self-insert character as much as I do, the next few seconds after this are pretty good.
: In the background, you can hear Tamaki beating the everloving shit out of Tadashi.
: “Heheh… an idol, eh?”
: “Lisa, this is no joke! Did you forget that rumors are coming true? You could actually end up debuting for real!”
: “Something’s odd about this poster. It’s like they put these up specifically to make people speculate that Lisa’s the third member…”
: “Another rumor… you think it’s the Masked Circle?”
: “I don’t know why they’d do it, though… guess we should look into this.”
: I don’t think he ever learned anything. I spread the rumors about the shops - always using the “expensive but good quality” modifier.
: Our last stop this update is Tony’s Shop to get weapons that roughly double our party’s attack strength. The best kind of omerta is being too dumb to know what omerta even is. Next update, we’ll go to Mu and watch as an idol is born.
Wow, who would make a bunch of video game inserts to gush about the public figures they’re most attracted to? kicks old fanfics into the closet
I don’t know if a guy starts screaming “burn, bun!” I’d just sort of assume he’s a pyromaniac.
Definitely playing it off as a wig.
I feel like Mu is about where I stopped playing this game, cause I definitely actually remember all of this… but then, who can say.
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: Welcome to Mu, where the front room is a casino even though I never actually spread the rumor about there being a casino.
: “Looks like they’re arguing over something.”
: It’s strange that the AD doesn’t recognize Lisa as being the third member of Muses. I guess he could be feigning ignorance.
: I wish I was doing videos for this because as soon as this text box goes away, Eikichi runs off-screen.
: “That idiot!”
: “Well, this does save us the trouble of sneaking in! C’mon, guys! Next stop, Muses!”
: I’ll probably spread the rumor about it eventually just to show it off, but the casino in Mu is very different from Judgement 1999 in Persona 1. The machines are numbered, and you can talk to people on the street to find out which machines are the easiest to win on. The only problem is that your win chance depends on Tatsuya’s luck stat, which is pretty low because we’re pumping Dexterity for fusion spell damage.
: I’m glad that Atlus largely got over the whole “everything has to be a maze” thing by the time Persona 3 came out. What I didn’t know going into this is that Mu is actually a really short dungeon… but at the same time is the start of what is basically a filler arc.
: Surprisingly, our first random encounter is with actual demons. This is kind of a rarity in Mu. Nekomata is the one demon you want to negotiate with here: she’s easy to negotiate with and gives 15 free cards every time you do so once you have a pact.
: Ixtab isn’t worth negotiating with. I made a pact with it and had it immediately broken, and it gives pretty much the same amount of free cards Nekomata does.
: Layout wise, Mu is a lot like the SEBEC building from Persona 1, in that it has staircases that are cut off from the rest of the building. Going the wrong way on the first floor gets us a couple of Rattle Drinks, which are the mid-tier heal item.
: On my way back to the correct route, I got into a fight and Tatsuya’s Persona got a form mutation. Form mutations are basically a special kind of fusion which generally suck. Let me show you why.
: We can see here that Surya can mutate into Fukurokuju, who is a minor arcana Persona. The problem is that unlike regular fusion - where we can fuse and equip Personas up to five levels higher than the corresponding character - we can’t do that with a mutation. By the time we reach level 20, we will have access to Personas way better than Fukurokuju.
: When I said demons are rare encounters in Mu, this is what I meant. Probably a good 60 to 70 percent of the encounters in Mu are with mask cultists. They come in various colors to signify what element they are: blue are water, yellow are lightning, and red are fire.
: Once you reach the second floor (you want to do this from the side that didn’t have the rattle drinks) there’s two sets of stairs you can take. The middle’s totally skippable but has a few items in it.
: Hallways with stairs in them is pretty much the entirety of what Mu is. This one will bring us to the 4th floor… but not the right part.
: Inside is a St Card, which is used at fusion to give a Persona 5 extra points of strength. It’s not great given that we have an All Incense from the Dresser Hag quest (which gives us 5 in all stats) but it’s there.
: Once we take the staircase further down on the second floor, we wind up behind a rope barrier a few feet from the reception desk in the front. Why they even have this up when the cast are trying to get through, I have no idea.
: It took me practically half the dungeon to run into a Minotaur, notable only because he takes two Mega Blazes to go down instead of just one. This is part of the reason why I was trying to farm cards, because apparently Mega Blaze starts falling off hard around this point of the game and needs to be replaced. I think that might be because the guide authors (including the born-again Christian “dying is not cool the devil is a wimp” guy) never bothered upgrading their Personas.
: Anyway, we go in a loop around the back staircase and now we’re on the franchise floor. This box here is special.
: Faust is a unique encounter who should probably be a mini-boss but doesn’t exactly qualify.
: He opens with Mephistopheles, an attack that causes random status effects to each party member. If he had managed to hit Tatsuya and Eikichi with sleep or charm, this might’ve been a bad time.
: For some reason, Faust’s physical defense is incredibly low. One Pegasus Strike takes him out without further issue.
: Faust drops a Miracle Egg, which is complete overkill right now. I never mentioned it in the Persona 1 LP, but in both Persona 1 and the Persona 2 duology your party recovers SP as they walk. I don’t know why they left that feature out of the rest of the games.
: Faust gave me just enough EXP to level Eikichi to 14. I really don’t understand why Eikichi is the source of like, 90% of all negotiations in this game. I think I’ve used Yukino all of once for that. This one in particular is annoying because Eikichi’s “sing” tactic has a roughly 10-second unskippable animation attached to it. Thankfully, we only need to do this to form the pact.
: I got to the final room of Mu without even encountering all the demons on the encounter list. This was with me getting here and then turning back because I forgot a couple of chests.
: There’s a door on the third floor I passed that leads there.
: We get a pretty good supply of free cards, which we’ll need in just a bit to fuse some Personas.
: Finally, just as I got to the door on the fourth floor, I ran into two of the demons we hadn’t seen yet. Moh Shuvuu is a returning demon, and Ochre Jelly is yet another Slime recolor. Both guides recommend negotiating with Moh Shuvuu, but I didn’t because making them Eager to get cards requires using Lisa’s “dance” tactic, which is another 10-second unskippable animation.
: There’s another demon we didn’t run into, but it’s the least useful one because it gives World cards (not usable for another 20 levels or so) and only a handful of them at that.
: I wonder what’s going to be behind this door? A boss?
: Nope! This is going to be a recurring theme for the next couple of dungeons: we go in, go through some floors, and there’s no boss at the end.
: There’s a cut between these two scenes, so I’m not really omitting anything. You can’t see the animation, but Tatsuya is in fact playing DDR in the background. I forgot how big DDR was in 1998.
: The nickname doesn’t even make any sense beyond being a dumb reference. They’d sound exactly the same.
: I honestly don’t know why anyone would want to be an idol in Japan. There’s the toxic fanbases, the need to keep up a very specific image at all times… and thirsty game developers making elaborate self-insert characters to ship themselves with you.
: This is one thing I think Persona 2 does really well is showing off the actual hardships the characters are going through. Remember, Lisa doesn’t speak English - she was born in Japan but everyone assumes she does because her parents are non-Japanese.
: Mami also looks really, really off-model in this scene. I’ll show you at the end of the update.
: Giga Macho is our next stop, which I’m doing in the next update because I may or may not have spent my entire weekend getting sucked into Terraria again. Even with the “final update” it still has crazy pacing issues.
: Before we end the update, I made a quick stop at the Velvet Room to fuse a couple of new Personas.
Returning Persona: Nekomata
First Appearance: Megami Tensei (NES)
: Nekomata is a pretty average Persona, apart from the fact that she learns Zanma. As you can see, the Zan spell line (which did Blast-type damage in Persona 1) now does Almighty damage. This is as close to Megidolaon as we can get.
Returning Persona: Angel
First Appearance: Shin Megami Tensei (SNES)
: Meet the Persona 2 Angel design, also known as Elly from Persona 1 if she was in a mainline SMT game. This is well before SMT Nocturne and the infamous “bondage angel” that has been in every SMT game since the PS2 era. We want Angel for one reason and one reason alone: I had to change Maya’s Persona and without Pixie we’d have no source of healing.
: What I had to change Maya’s Persona to is Fjalar here, not to be confused with Vidofnir. I don’t know how Norse mythology manages to have more than one magic rooster in it. We need Vidofnir for a fusion spell, and that’s about all we need him for.
: I did record a bit of Giga Macho (really just the entrance) so let’s go in.
: Oh no. Next time, we’ll go into a record store. In 1999. I’ll be spending the next week recovering from the YIIK flashbacks. In hindsight, I’m thankful that the Allansons probably never played Innocent Sin.
Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyeah no matter the country I am absolutely not surprised that teenagers would make those kinds of assumptions about their classmates.
It’s weird here though, because presumably they’re people who have known her for some time. In fact, there’s something they probably would know that we don’t yet - namely why Lisa keeps inserting random Cantonese words into everything she says - that ties into why she doesn’t speak English.
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: Welcome back to Giga Macho, where my PSP died halfway through because of my idiot dog pulling the plug on it.
: Giga Macho is very big and for the most part very empty. There’s a guy near the front who will sell us CDs that we can listen to at Maya’s apartment, but there’s not really much of a point in that since this is a screenshot LP.
: Giga Macho is largely populated by the same enemies that were in Mu, only we run into them more frequently. Cockatrice is an annoying piece of shit. It barely gives you cards: most enemies around this point in the game are giving you somewhere around 20 cards and another 15-20 free cards if you have a pact. Cockatrice gives you 9 world cards and 6 free cards. You want a pact with it mostly because they spam poison to no end.
: Lisa’s accessory alerts us to two new fusion spells we can do with our new Personas.
: Maxi Tempest is one of them and I didn’t find the other one before my PSP died. It’s the inverse of Mega Blaze - where Mega Blaze is Fire -> Wind -> Fire, Maxi Tempest is Wind -> Fire -> Wind.
: I took the liberty of grinding a bit and found our first Demon Rumor. Demon Rumors are a bit weird. You get them by making a pact with a demon, making that demon Happy again, and then asking for information.
: You then need to talk to two different demon types to get the second half, which is either “Jack Frost knows Atomic Bufula and it’s strong” or “Jack Frost knows Atomic Bufula and it’s weak.”
: The tradeoff is that if you say it’s strong, you can fuse Jack Frost and he’ll have the spell and benefit from that, but so will the enemy Jack Frosts.
: Here’s the thing about Giga Macho. As it turns out, there’s an elevator on the first floor that goes up to the end of the dungeon. You can skip probably 80% of the dungeon. The reason we don’t want to is because there’s a couple of unique demons and because we need the EXP and cards.
: Here, we encounter our first new demon: Wraith. I never really bothered to fight one because the EXP from killing one isn’t really worth it and the 20 Devil cards it gives are a better option.
: There’s a couple of chewing souls in a box on this floor somewhere, but this box is trapped, because this isn’t enough of a filler dungeon.
: The third floor has the stairs pretty much right next to where you enter it, but instead we want to go down here. At some point, Lisa got possessed by a Moh Shuvuu, which is basically a confusion effect.
: Lich is a unique demon, but isn’t really worth a whole lot. It has a couple of physical attacks that target the entire party, but I didn’t see much beyond that because a single Blazing Burst/Pegasus Strike combo killed it in one turn.
: Honestly, unless you’re looking for the unique demons for some reason, there’s no reason not to just take the elevator to the fourth floor. Most of the demons we’ve run into are repeats that aren’t worth fighting.
: I didn’t bother getting the Atomic Bufula, but here’s Jack Frost. This is where my PSP died. What sucked is that it went to sleep and had the game still running so I could’ve recovered, but the dock is really fucky and wouldn’t recognize the video output. When that happens, you have to power cycle it. Innocent Sin also doesn’t have the “suspend save” feature that Persona 1 did as far as I know, so I couldn’t have saved it that way.
: Second run through, I find Kinnara in the first encounter. If you’ll remember, we have him as a Persona. He’s not a bad pact option because like Nekomata, he gives 15 free cards on negotiation. He also has an instant death spell.
: This time, I find the chewing souls on the second floor. That other sparkle on the map is the trapped box.
: On the third floor, we run into Tengu. Tengu is a great pact choice, as he gives 17 free cards (the second-highest of all the demons in Giga Macho) and is very easy to negotiate with.
: After like an hour, I made it back to roughly where the PSP’s battery died last time.
: There’s a Trish’s Spring by the elevator, but she now charges 15,000 yen for healing.
: What we actually want to do though is jump back in the elevator and go to the fifth floor. The reason is that the place the elevator takes you to there is cut off from the rest of the floor, but has a new weapon for Yukino in it. That green puddle is a damage floor that damages SP.
: Back on the fourth floor, there’s a box kind of near the stairs going up. This is another unique demon encounter.
: Rasputin is a gimmick miniboss who is completely immune to magic of all types but is very weak to physical attacks.
: There’s a Strength Incense in the same room.
: Other than Rasputin, there’s not much of interest on the upper floors. The guide recommended I grind to 18, so I did.
: Our destination is right here, at the FM Viewing Studio on the fifth floor. Before we go in though, we want to do one thing.
: Normally, you’d want to equip Lisa with her starter Persona, but we already cashed that in, so I gave her the Pixie instead. This is important because as soon as we enter the next room, we get locked out of using whatever Persona she has equipped for a while. The game will remember which one she has as well, so we can’t use that to fuse another one.
: This guy reminds me a lot of Geoff Keighley. It seems weird to me that they’d have a recording booth in a CD store as a permanent fixture like this.
: This guy totally isn’t a member of the Masked Circle.
: I apologize for the text being somewhat cut off. For all the stuff Affinity Photo advertises about non-destructive workflow, it sure had no problem overwriting my original shots with the cropped ones.
: “Oh, geez! What should I do, Tatsuya!? Kaumena! Help me!”
: “I don’t think you have a choice! Time to bite the bullet and go do this! Try and pry out as much information as you can!”
: So yes, we are feeding Lisa into what is very obviously a trap. Maybe we can get rid of her and replace her with Elly or Brown.
: “Hey, Tatsuya-kun. Do you detect a faint Persona resonance in that Sasaki guy? I wonder if he’s one of the Masked Circle… if he is, Lisa’s in trouble.”
: In Persona 2, having a Persona straight up makes you a Jojo character. This is the only game in the series where this kind of thing happens - characters sensing each other’s Persona levels and shit.
: “But if we go along with the plan, we might get some juicy details on the Masked Circle. Well, it’s all up to Lisa now.”
: “Ng Hai! There is a certain gentleman! Actually, he’s here today!”
: This scene is actually kind of brilliantly written. Normally, an idol producer would cut the interview off before Lisa ever got past “Ng Hai” and probably earlier than that - idol culture in Japan is such that idols have gotten death threats because they’re in a relationship.
: Then you realize what Lisa’s trying to do: she knows this and is trying to get out of it by giving the worst possible answers.
: No idol producer would ever dare let this question be asked.
: Well, there you have it, folks. Lisa and Eikichi are an item.
: “Awww, you should’ve said so before… baby be mine! I’m gonna give you a whole lotta love!”
: I’m trying to figure out whether Eikichi would stop his visual kei ways and become Lisa’s perfect man, or whether Lisa would go full on visual kei and join his band.
: I never mentioned that, by the way, but Eikichi is into what’s called “visual kei”, a style of music that can best be described as Japanese people trying very, very hard to be David Bowie only also trying very hard to be goths.
: Lisa’s trying for a speedrun of an idol career at any%. The trick is to immediately end your career as fast as possible using whatever means necessary.
: “My Chinyan isn’t a twisted narcissist like him!”
: I dunno if I’d call him a twisted narcissist, I mean…
: Nekomata is absolutely Lisa’s fursona.
: Atlus even did a poster for it that’s in one of the artbooks.
: "I knew it!’
: There’s only two ways this can go. Either you have your Genki Rockets type thing where the lyrics sound okay but they make no sense, or you get Orange Range doing Monkey Magic. Or you get something in the middle, like the boss theme from the first game.
: Unfortunately I can’t find the original version of the song (which is laughably bad), only the cleaned-up cover from Ouendan 2 that sounds less atrocious. Just imagine a singer who can barely sing in Japanese trying to cover a Japanese folk song in English. It’s bad. The best I can do is the first few seconds over a DOTA kill video.
: Next time, we head to Aoba Park for yet another filler dungeon.
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: Before we go to Aoba Park, we have a couple of side things to do. First, we need to hand in the Dresser Hag quest (which I forgot to do entirely) before we do the next dungeon. It becomes unavailable after that even if you’ve completed it.
: This is also your last opportunity to feed 10,000 yen into the dog statue to get two incense sets, but given what’s going on right now I think we can safely say fuck that.
: Aoba has a lot of stuff in it. This is actually where you start the game in Eternal Punishment - Kismet Publishing is where Maya works. We’re going to take a brief detour to Sumaru TV. It’s not part of a quest, but…
: It’s weird to me that they’d phrase it like that, because in this game a phrase like “whose popularity is skyrocketing right now” would imply that he’s allied with Joker. He’s not.
: In case you haven’t read the Persona 1 LP, Brown was one of the four possible party members you could choose from in the main route. We wound up using him for Snow Queen.
: On with the side stuff. First, we want to talk to this guy outside of Aoba Park.
: This is a sidequest that’s technically worth the 3,000 yen admission price, but you’d need a guide (or repeated playthroughs of Aoba Park) to figure out how to actually get your money’s worth in most cases.
: We can also meet another rumormonger if we go to Double Slash in the Aoba Way mall.
: Baofu is a party member in Eternal Punishment. We’ve actually met him in person already in this game, but in a throwaway scene you’re not likely to remember by the time you get around to EP. I haven’t played EP yet, so I’ll just spoilertext it: Baofu is the drunken guy that was in Tatsuya’s flashback in the bunker at Kasugayama High.
: Baofu doesn’t have any useful information for us just yet, but it’s good to know this is how you contact him.
: Our second stop is back at Shiraishi Ramen, where we turned the owner into a Russian spy. The guy standing next to Maya offers us a sidequest.
: This sidequest is a reference to a Japanese pop musician by the name of Linda Yamamoto. She’s kind of like a Japanese Cher, in that she was big in the 60s and 70s and then disappeared for a while only to be revived every few decades like some kind of musical Dracula.
: As the fan mentions, she did something that at the time was seen as scandalous: namely exposing her midriff while performing. Probably her most famous song is called Sharpshoot, which appeared in Ouendan 1 and is the only song from that game I refuse to have on my MP3 player because god her voice is like a goddamn cheese grater.
: We also want to talk to Chikarin, who for some reason has the rumors we want to spread in regards to weapon and armor stores in Aoba.
: The next stop is Todoroki, in order to spread a couple of rumors. We want to spread both of the ones Chikarin gave us, as well as “An idol’s ghost has been sighted!” and “Flowers can talk.”
: I stopped at Claire de Lune to buy weapons, and ran into… Linda Yamamoto. Apparently, having a rumor spread that you’re dead does not actually kill you, meaning that unfortunately, Hanya is probably alive. This will actually prove to be a major plot point… in Persona 5 Royal. I’m thinking of dunking on that after I finish Innocent Sin.
: I just wanted to point out a couple of things. First, I forgot to actually equip any of the armor we bought the last time we went to a store. Second, this is the weapon we found for Yukino inside Giga Macho, which I remind you was the last dungeon we finished not even half an hour ago. Would you believe me if I told you there’s a weapon for Tatsuya in the next dungeon that’s already obsolete when we pick it up?
: Our last stop is the Velvet Room. I was kind of shocked that we can fuse Nemesis as a Persona, given its status as a boss in Persona 1. Unfortunately, Nemesis is not great and we won’t be fusing it.
New Persona: Gandharva
Origin: India (Hindu)
First Appearance: Megami Tensei II (NES)
: At first, I thought fusing Gandharva was a mistake. I accidentally gave him to Tatsuya, who he only has neutral compatibility with. as it turns out, fusing him was not a mistake.
New Persona: Otohime
First Appearance: Shin Megami Tensei II (SNES)
: Otohime is key to a couple of fusion spells I pick up in Aoba Park. She was one of the worst things to fight when I did the Thanatos First route in Persona 1, and was kind of a garbage Persona in that game, but here she’s much better.
: Just north of the entrance to Aoba Park is our first talking flower. These all work the same: they ask you a question, and if you answer correctly they give you an item. If you don’t, they either poison you, do damage to the entire party, or put people to sleep.
: The correct answer here is the second one.
: Aoba Park is largely full of the same demons we fought at Giga Macho, only there’s more of them per encounter. This proves to be kind of annoying: Tengu (in the back) are immune to wind and Kinnara (in front) are immune to fire. This means we can’t use Mega Blaze or Maxi Tempest to wipe them all out at once.
: We run into Linda not long after entering. She’s a pretty straightforward fight - no major resistances and weak to all physical damage types.
: She drops her bra, which we can turn in for a reward.
: Kiyohime was a rare spawn in Giga Macho that I never saw despite going through Giga Macho twice. Here, she’s much more common. If you make a pact with any demon in Aoba Park, make it with Kiyohime: she gives 20 Free Cards per negotiation and is the reason I wound up with over 400 free cards by the end of Aoba Park.
: Aoba Park is kind of annoying because as you can see on the map, most of the hedges are not marked. That red grate is a damage floor, but unlike Giga Macho we can avoid all of them.
: Fjalar is one of the two new enemies for Aoba Park, and also the only one we can’t negotiate with due to him being one level above us… even though Yukino has him as a Persona. They’re usually not worth fighting because they only come alone or with one other Fjalar, and the EXP for fighting them isn’t great.
: We do a big loop, and wind up at the second flower.
: I feel like this flower would not be out of place as an Animal Crossing villager.
: After I met this flower, I realized I had made a few tactical errors. First, I forgot to actually fuse that Angel I said I did a few updates ago, so I had no source of healing. Second, I had equipped Gandharva to Tatsuya not knowing they had neutral compatibility. I wound up mutating Surya (Tatsuya’s old Persona) into Fukurokuju but never used him.
New Persona: Fukurokuju
Persona 2 Original
: Fukurokuju doesn’t really add anything to our elemental coverage, and in fact makes it worse.
: Back in Aoba Park again, I discovered a couple of new fusion spells we can do.
: Towering Inferno is like Blazing Burst, only it takes three people and doesn’t scale with Dexterity. It’s not great, but it’s there. It’s performed by casting a water spell, an earth spell, and a fire spell in that order.
: Next, I discover our replacement for Mega Blaze. Sonic Wave also doesn’t scale, but it does Ma-dyne tier damage.
: I’m pretty sure that the first part of Aoba Park is bigger than Mu was.
: There’s a Vitality card here which is really the only important piece of loot in the entire dungeon.
: The gate here is a load screen that leads into the second part of Aoba Park.
: This also sounds like an Animal Crossing villager, only one of the original Gamecube/N64 ones.
: The answer we want here is “Thorns and poison”.
: This bead pretty much makes up for the cost of the rumor.
: The North side of Aoba Park has a trash can in it with a unique item, but it’s kind of already obsolete. The blue grate above Tatsuya is a damage floor that damages SP.
: First though, we run into Angel, the other new enemy in Aoba Park. I also realized that I fused an Angel but never actually put it in the Persona roster so I wound up just using items to heal instead.
: The unique item is the Rainbow Light. It’s a “material card” which works a lot like the totem items in Persona 1. You make a Persona of the correct arcana and add the Rainbow Light as a material card to get a different Persona.
: I’ll post Iris’s stat sheet so you can understand why we’re not fusing her.
: Part of the problem is that Iris doesn’t really offer anything that our existing Personas don’t, and she also mutates into Fukurokuju, who we already have.
: There’s a light blue flower in the middle of the area that doesn’t do anything.
: Just south of it, however, is a pretty well-hidden area with a box in it.
: The Kiku-Ichimonji is already obsolete by the time we find it. It has better crit percentage, but I think we’ve physically attacked only a handful of times in this entire game thus far.
: North of the flower that doesn’t do anything is this flower, who is an asshole. He’ll either take everyone’s HP to 1 or take everyone’s SP to 1 in exchange for a Revival Bead, which is absolutely not worth it.
: In the elbow-shaped area is a box with a unique demon encounter in it. I forget what they’re called, and they died in one Sonic Wave so yeah.
: Right before the exit to the concert area, there’s a final flower that’ll ask you which flower is the most beautiful. The correct answer is “they’re all equally beautiful” which gets you a Balm of Life.
: Who builds a concert stage in the middle of a giant hedge maze?
: “Even if we lie and say we’re here for an interview, they’ll find out once they realize we don’t have an appointment.”
: “Hey, gang! There’s some guys who look like part-time staff over there. They’re slacking on the job, seems like.”
: “Yeah, looks that way. But if they’re part-timers, they might have employee badges. Why don’t we offer to buy 'em? Just say that we couldn’t get concert tix.”
: “Even if they try to gouge us a little, easier to grease some palms than start a commotion.”
: “Yeah, you’re right! Let’s try Yukki’s plan. Tatsuya-kun, will you do the honors?”
: Even in 1999, 10000 yen was less than $100 USD. That’s about $30 each for the three of them.
: The good news is that we can save here, so I do.
: The Concert Hall is extremely simple: there’s a hallway going East, and a hallway going South. The only reason we have to go East right now is that there’s a Vitality Incense and some optional dialogue at the end.
: Even in Persona 2, Yukino is still the best girl.
: I grinded just a little bit to get the party up to 21 before the upcoming boss fight. We haven’t had one of those in a while, and I was a little low on money after buying all the equipment and healing items.
: This song is playing softly through the door. I ask that you not read the lyrics, as the lyrics contain major spoilers for the end of the game.
: “Do all blonde-haired people automatically speak English!? Is it weird for a blue-eyed girl to know Japanese? Am I some freak?”
: “So, so I was bullied for it as a kid, but now it’s ‘cool’? It’s ‘unique’? I’m tired of other people deciding how to define me!”
: “My dad never taught me a word of English… but everyone assumes all foreigners can speak it… they have to stand out…”
: “What am I supposed to do? I’m… I’m just like anyone else… just a normal girl…”
: “I knew it! You two are in the Masked Circle!”
: You’d think Lisa would be more freaked out at this than she is, given that there’s no way they should know that she contacted Joker.
: “W-well… it was so sudden…”
: I don’t know if he’s supposed to be a stand-in for the audience or what, but how the FUCK does he know all this? By the time we’re done with this update, it will be very apparent that pretty much everyone knows more than we do at this point.
: “I-I had a dream! But… I lost it, so…”
: “That’s… that’s a lie. What about the shadowmen, huh!? Why is he stealing everyone’s dreaming hearts?”
: Gee, it’s almost like I heard that line in Persona 5. If you think about it, you’re basically playing as the Masked Circle in P5.
: Great, more cryptic bullshit.
: Just like that scene with Eikichi in Zodiac, this is another moral choice. We want to pick the top option.
: They really are in love!
: There’s a really, really long sequence where they play the “Joker” song while the audience (seriously, wasn’t this supposed to be a sold-out show?) does the worst impression of cheering I’ve ever seen imparted by 32-bit sprites.
: In case you’re wondering what the Oracle of Maia is, it’s in the lyrics of the Joker song.
: No fucking shit! Why he’s even bothering to wear the mask when we already know who he is… is a mystery. Also how Lisa was hiding her school uniform underneath that crop-top.
: “What’s your ultimate aim in harvesting people’s dreaming hearts with those skulls!? What is this ‘End of Nahui-Ollin’!?”
: “If you want to know, I have a game for you. My duty is to ignite the flames of expiation to the lands shown by the celestial heavens. Four pillars of fire will rise…”
: It’s like Leo is trying to do the whole Dark Knight Rises thing without knowing what that is.
: “Hahahaaaa! One is here… scour this hall to discover the next target. Somewhere here, you shall find a gracious riddle! Hahahaaa… hyaaaahhahahahahaaaaa! Hurry, whelps! This park will soon be engulfed in flames!”
: What the fuck is this, Superman 64? Are we going to have to play as Eikichi and fly through rings?
: Prince Taurus is a fight that can either be so easy he never does damage, or be a complete shitfest of status effects. In this case, he opened by casting Marin Karin and kept doing that without ever hitting anyone because Marin Karin hasn’t been a useful spell since SMT 1.
: I didn’t get a picture of it because I had Skip Mode on, but Ginji/Taurus’s Persona is Reverse Eros, the opposite of Lisa’s Persona.
: The problem arises when Taurus starts using Dark Mamagna. This hits everyone in the party for a sizeable amount of Earth damage (50+) and has a chance of hitting you with Confusion. Confusion in Persona 2 is bullshit - instead of just attacking, Confusion makes it so that your characters cast spells on each other.
: Also dumb is that Lisa does not gain any levels and has the exact same amount of HP and SP she did when we finished Giga Macho.
: Having Tatsuya confused locked me out of using Sonic Wave, but at that point Taurus had lost enough HP that regular spells took him out.
: My favorite part of this is that if you look, Tatsuya is climbing the stairs to take Taurus’s head off.
: As soon as we leave this room, a three-minute timer starts.
: The timer is EXTREMELY generous - it doesn’t count time spent in battles and it doesn’t count time spent in menus.
: What we want to do is go down the East-side wing (where we found the vitality incense) and go into the third dressing room.
: “Maya-san!? Wh-what’s wrong!? Calm down!”
: “What the-- those burns on your hands… what in the world…?”
: “What’s with her all of a sudden!? You gotta do something, Tatsuya!”
: We want to pick the top option. This will unlock a new negotiation tactic.
: “I’m sorry… I’m… I’m okay now… I’m just… so scared of his fires… Shameful, isn’t it?”
: Bottom option.
: “Thanks, Tatsuya-kun. You’re so kind… I’m okay now. Sorry about that, everyone. C’mon, we need to find the Masked Circle’s next target! Let’s see here…”
: “Twelve beasts crown the Pleiades, when the winds of change blow, all descend with smiles to the netherworld…”
: “What the hell? What is this thing getting at?”
: “Excuse me… you’re Ms. Okamura from Sevens, right? My name is Maya Amano, I’m with Coolest’s editorial division.”
: “You mentioned the Oracle of Maia just now… do you know something about it? If you don’t mind, I’d like --”
: Oh man. Ms Ideal is foreshadowing all kinds of crap that hasn’t happened yet but is way more interesting than whatever the fuck it is we’ve been doing for the past few hours.
: Wait… what? What’s Hitler got to do with anything?
: Next time, we’ll meet up with a certain party member from Persona 1.
Look sometimes, you hear the phrase “magic cock” and just run with it.
From my own experiences in school I can say, with 100% certainty, you can go to school with someone for 7 years and still not know a damn thing about them.
I’m shocked all of this is like… not necessary, potentially? Like when you say filler I think like “aah, optional content” and that’s probably not correct on my part.
How so, if I may ask? I’m listening to it while reading the update and she’s… quite a good singer honestly? It’s also refreshing to listen to an idol that doesn’t sound like (and is!!) a child.
Atlus stop being fuckin’ weird about idols challenge! Please!
Persona 3 would beg to disagree, given one of the floor bosses can wipe you if he charms the MC pretty much effortlessly… but then that’s really the spell, that’s P3’s stupid “only control yourself” idea.
Nah, what I meant by that is that Mu and Giga Macho don’t really have much of a purpose. If this was Persona 3 onwards it’d probably just be a cutscene or two and then Aoba Park would be the dungeon.
It might be because my first exposure to it was the first Ouendan game on the DS, which used covers of all the songs. Sharpshoot was one of them, and the cover was real bad. I don’t particularly like the original either though. I think it’s one of those love it or hate it things, but there’s something about her voice that just grates on my nerves.
It might also be because I associate her song with one of the worst stages in that game.
So, in SMT 1 you could wipe bosses with Marin Karin. In fact, the strategy for Thor (the first major boss) is to Marin Karin him and have him die to his own damage. I think somewhere around SMT 2 Atlus realized that doing that was kinda overpowered. It’s the same thing that happened to Zio and Bufu: Mazio and Mabufu could lock down entire enemy groups in SMT 1 because they had a very high chance to shock or freeze. In fact, a general strategy for most of the hard fights in that game is “spam Zio or Bufu and stunlock the boss to death”.
I will admit though, I haven’t played much of P3 because the “only control yourself” system turns me off to it even more than P1’s EXP system.
Woah woah woah. Meet up with a certain party member of Persona 1? I don’t know if I can trust this game if they gotta keep dropping in Persona 1 characters as cameos to keep the plot rolling. Sarcasm.
Also ha. The writer thought they were throwing foreign words and spirituality concepts no one would know about but I can vaguely guess what they’re referring to because they used those same terms in RahXephon.
Funny thing about that is that you can go the entire game without running into any of the P1 cast aside from Yukino and Elly, especially if you say that Hanya lived. You basically have to actively seek out Maki and Brown. Just like in his own game, Reiji requires a whole bunch of steps to see again. Eternal Punishment is a bit different.
One other thing I wanted to mention, even though it’s an incredible longshot. Atlus was confirmed as an attendee at the PC Gaming Show thing they’re doing in lieu of E3 this year. My hope is that they announce they’re porting their entire back catalog to PC, including Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment. They won’t.
Fair point on the Marin Karin stuff. It becomes pretty useless for the player, yeah.
I highly recommend Persona 3 Portable by the way. It lets you control everyone, and lets you be a girl. And the girl even has a personality to her dialogue choices!
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: The following takes place between the hours of around 9:30 at night to just before 11:00. Our story begins in the Abandoned Factory, with me spending almost two hours trying to hunt down a rare boss spawn and not finding it.
: Now that we’ve cleared Aoba Park, a new area opens up in the factory, aptly named “Factory”. This area contains enemies going from Mu to the Concert Hall… as well as an EXTREMELY rare boss spawn that I did not find after two hours of trying. The boss is the Buddha, and you can kill him to be able to summon him. Buddha’s not great, except that he has one of the only spells that does actual Light damage (as opposed to instakills) in the game.
: This is the Persona version of Sakya, aka Siddhartha Gautama, aka Buddha. Why Buddha is only level 29 despite the fact that the head deities of major religions are usually the end-game demons/Personas in the SMT series, I have no idea.
: I stopped because the party was pushing level 25, and I didn’t want to get too overpowered. There IS a way to guarantee a Sakya spawn, and that’s by using Estoma, a spell that prevents encounters with enemies lower level than your party is. Unfortunately, getting Estoma would require me to mutate a Harpy or Pixie and fuck that noise.
: What we need to go in there for (apart from money, because buying new equipment was well over double the cash I had on hand at the end of Aoba Park) is this note.
: Speaking of which, we can open two new shops in Kounan: Jolly Roger and London Clothiers. The “Good but Expensive” rumors come from the Sumaru Genie and Chikarin, respectively.
: The owner of the Jolly Roger, by the way, is a fucking zombie pirate. He’s like this even if you don’t spread the rumor about the weapons shop. Our next destination is Double Slash in Aoba, to meet with…
: Elly! The model of an angel! The best girl from Persona 1, who uh… god that redone artwork kinda makes her look like a gremlin. The reason the character designer did this, by the way, is because the idol they modelled Elly after did it in real life.
: “Sorry to drag you out here when you’ve got work to do, Eriko. These are the guys I told you about over the phone. My partner Maya, Lisa, Eikichi,and Tatsuya.”
: I’ll be using the Eternal Punishment portraits for Elly for the rest of the LP. She only has one in Innocent Sin.
: “It’s nice to meet you all. My name is Eriko Kirishima.”
: “Sorry to cut right to the point, Eriko, but that stuff I told you about…”
: “Sure. I was thinking it over on my way here.”
: What we’re about to see is that entire stupid “square the circle” puzzle from Gabriel Knight 3 done right.
: I dunno, I think we’d better go through a 10-minute sequence of scanning shit into SIDNEY first.
: I realized just now that I was probably supposed to read the riddle in the inventory.
: Are we going to get a revelation that Maya is actually a CIA agent? Or that Eikichi is secretly vampire Jesus?
: “That’s amazing, Eriko! But Hirasaka is a pretty huge place… we still need to pinpoint a location.”
: “All descend with smiles to the netherworld… I get it. The descent into the netherworld is about Yomotsu Hirasaka from Japanese myth… it’s a play on words.”
: “Spoken like a trained journalist! There’s no doubt that the third line is a riddle as to the exact location in Hirasaka. Unfortunately, I’m not that familiar with Sumaru City’s environs. So I can’t deduce anything further as yet…”
: “That’s okay! You’ve done more than your share! We’ll figure out the rest on our own. Grazie, Eriko-san!”
: “You’re quite welcome. I’ll stay here and ponder the Masked Circle and their riddle a little more.”
: At this point, I went to go see if I could find Sakya in the factory, and uh… yeah I didn’t. I did however find a couple of new fusion spells.
: Atomic Destruction is an instant kill spell that requires three people to perform. I think the idea is it works on enemies that would otherwise be immune to Hama or Mudo, but it’s really not worth doing.
: Low End Breaker is a spell that requires Zanma, which requires levelling Nekomata to Max Rank. It targets the lowest level enemy and attempts to instakill them.
: After spending well over 200,000 yen on armor I didn’t really need, it’s time to go figure out what the riddle means. Even though we haven’t read it, there’s one key line to it, that being “All descend with smiles to the netherworld.”
: Here’s a list of everywhere in Hirasaka. Hmm… all descend with smiles… clearly, they must mean the Sakanoue Building!
: Eikichi is going to waterboard someone before the day is through.
: Yeah, of course. I’m sure “Sakanoue” is Japanese for Smile or something. It’s probably just poorly translated.
: Uh… all hail Shadow?
: Anyway, the trick to the next two dungeons is that they’re optional. The game becomes a bit harder if you skip them because there’s more of a level jump going into the next mandatory dungeon, but really you’re not missing much if you let them blow up.
: I’ll do the rest of the alternate dialogue here, but I’m going to purposely leave out the names of the next two possible bomb sites. NEXT TIME, ON TWENTY-FOUR:
: “It’s most likely north-northeast from Sevens. The only things there are ________ and _______ in _________. So the next target is–”
: What’s that, Elly? You’re kinda breaking up.
: “Elly-san, please! Can you be more specific about the location? Which one is King Leo’s next target?”
: “Then… you… you couldn’t prevent the fire… I-I’m sorry… there’s not much more I can tell you…”
: “Thanks, Eriko. That’s more than enough to get us started. Contact us again if you figure out anything else.”
: “Look alive, people! This is not the time for moping! We have to get a grip if we want to stop any more deaths! Hang in there! Dig deep! The next target is either __________ or _____________ in ___________!”
: “We HAVE to do this, or there’s no stopping the next bombing! Tatsuya, don’t steer us wrong this time!”
: If Smile Hirasaka explodes, you get this on the world map for the rest of the game. Meanwhile, in the real timeline…
: “We need to evacuate the customers before we can go looking for the transmitter. Can I borrow your lighter, Tatsuya-kun?”
: “A roommate? Ooh… do you have a Chinyan?”
: “Sorry to disappoint, but my roommate’s a girl.”
: Her roommate is a woman by the name of Ulala Serizawa, who is a party member in Eternal Punishment.
: “Ever since I started at Coolest, I’ve been too busy for a boyfriend. I’m pretty much married to my job!”
: “I don’t think of it as a limitation. It’s been my dream since I was little to be a journalist, so my life’s pretty fulfilling. I live for my work! Right, Yukki?”
: “For work, huh…? I don’t really know what most people live for, I guess. But at the very least, I like to think I’m living to make my dreams come true.”
: “It’s strange… when I’m with Maya-san, I’m reminded of the “Big Sis” I see in my dreams…”
: “Eikichi, those dreams–”
: Maya somehow finally sets the smoke alarm off. It’s strange that she’d even need a cigarette for that - most smoke detectors would probably go off from the lighter.
: “Pardon them for my sake, sweets. C’mon… can’t you forgive and forget at the request of such a beautiful specimen?”
: We are now alone as Tatsuya. This is not a situation we want to be in for any length of time for a bunch of different reasons.
: Almost immediately, we run into Pairika, who we could fuse as a Persona but I didn’t, mostly because it’s really hard to keep fusion combos up. We’re able to buy her off by promising her some special yaoi book.
: The enemies here give insane amounts of cards - we’ve still got well over 500 free cards, and I think the lowest-level enemies give 20.
: There’s a lot of doors up here, but all of them are closed. Kind of makes you wonder how Smile Hirasaka is even in business.
: Around the time I got here, I quit for the night. The next time I loaded the game, I decided I wanted to try something… which paid off massively. What I did was fuse Gullinbursti.
New Persona: Gullinbursti
First Appearance: Majin Tensei II (SNES)
: What I wasn’t sure of was if Gullinbursti’s first skill, Rockfall, counted for the purpose of fusion spells. It absolutely does, and it winds up saving my ass from a prolonged shitfest of a boss fight. Also seriously, what is it with the Norse and magic talking farm animals?
: Lich (who we fought in a box at Giga Macho) and Gandharva show up here as regular encounters. The problem is that they’re very common when you’re alone as Tatsuya but become pretty rare after that.
: I spent some time dicking around on the 4th floor. There’s items in the building, but you can mostly wait until you have your full party to hunt them down. I did it solo as Tatsuya because I could.
: The 4th floor has the Pipe Fox and an incense. The Pipe Fox is actually kind of useful in that it does less physical damage than Maya’s current gun but increases her magic attack and magic defense by 10 each.
: There’s an elevator prominently placed in the center of the map that goes to all but the 3rd floor. Unfortunately, we need to go there to get Maya back.
: The 3rd floor is basically one gigantic string of hallways, with Maya on the far side from the stairs. What I didn’t know is that there’s actually two sets of stairs here. I’ll explain how I found that out in a bit.
: Here’s what I missed. There’s a box here with 30,000 yen in it, which I absolutely want because I just spent all our money on equipment. Right next to it is the second staircase, which I completely miss.
: I wander around the 2nd floor for a while, and Tatsuya nearly levels up. I was looking for a couple of item boxes, but couldn’t find them. Then I decided to check and see if any maps existed.
: If you read the Persona 1 LP, you’ll know how much I love this Japanese site that did maps for all of the old Shin Megami Tensei games as well as Persona 1 and the Persona 2 duology. You can find the site here.
: I figured I could just take the elevator back to the 3rd floor and decided to grab the items that the map said were in here. This was before I knew the elevator does not go to the 3rd floor.
:There’s another new enemy here - the Kraken. You can fight one in a box, but I’m not sure why because it’s a regular encounter.
: This is also where I discover that there’s a wall between this part of B1F and where Yukino is on the other side.
: Here’s the staircase I missed. You can see how - it doesn’t look like a staircase and it’s just far enough from the chest with the 30,000 yen in it that you wouldn’t see it on the map from there.
: I stopped on the second floor’s back side to get a Maragi card, because why not.
: The other side of B1F is a box maze, albeit a very simple one.
: No, Tatsuya can’t simply walk between the boxes, you have to go all the way around.
: As soon as you get Yukino back, the encounters change from one enemy at a time to a bunch of Aoba Park enemies at once. Not pictured: me running all the way back to the 3rd floor so I could switch from the back staircase to the main one so I could go back down to the 1st floor so I could find Lisa. I pretty much did this dungeon in the most back-asswards way possible.
: Not pictured: me backtracking all the way from the 1st floor back to where we started outside the women’s bathroom on the 4th floor.
: Little transphobic there, lady?
: “What’s the matter, Tatsuya? Huh? That sound…”
: “How much time do we have!?”
: “Um… F-Five minutes!?”
: “How did you not notice this!?”
: “H-H-How was I supposed to know!?”
: “E-Excuse me! That transmitter in your pail… where did you find it!?”
: "That’s not a clock! It’s a timed detonator for a bomb! You need to give that to us right away!’
: I am absolutely never going to get tired of doing that, and the best part is I still have one more dungeon to do it in.
: “This is an emergency, so we have no choice. We’ll have to resort to force!”
: Like Mara, Belphegor is kind of a joke demon that for some reason is associated with toilets. This is the only game in which he gets to be a boss. By Persona 5, he’s demoted to trash demon in the first dungeon.
: Somehow, he summons a bunch of masked circle troops who never actually show up in the upcoming boss fight.
: Ixquic is a 13-year-old girl, which is kind of funny because that makes her slightly older than I am.
: “Heyyy, everyone! The evil demon tamers are here, just like the great King Leo’s oracle said they’d be!”
: “You fiendish demon tamers who seek to destroy the world! You… uh… umm… hm? Hold on a sec.”
: Fun note about this fight. Belphegor is not Ixquic’s Persona. He is a random ass SMT demon, which actually makes HER the demon tamer.
: “Hey, um, Belphie? What does this say?”
: “The magical warrior Ixquic, reincarnated since time immemorial, will whoop your ass with divine retribution! Demon tamers, be banished to the darkness from whence you came!”
: I love how the party just totally ignores her. The Leo Mask guys are cannon fodder at this point.
: “YO! DEMON TAMERS! Don’t turn your back on a reincarnated warrior of the Masked Circle!”
: In 1999, the idea of a Mayan warrior getting reincarnated as a 13 year old Japanese girl would be a joke. In 2020, it’d be the next big isekai anime once they run out of ideas for all the other isekai anime.
: "Be a good girl and don’t get in our way, m’kay, sweetie? You should hurry out of here too!’
: “Did you hear that, Belphie!? This old hag is treating a magical warrior like a plain ol’ little girl!”
: “O-old hag…!?”
: I like the idea of Eikichi going full on Jack Bauer and waterboarding the detonator until it talks. That’s my canon for how they disable it.
: “Stop that right now! If this building goes, you’ll die along with it!”
: “Psh, I don’t care. My family and classes are all just a pain… there’s nothing good about being alive!”
: “The reincarnated warrior Ixquic lives for justice, and she’ll die for it too! Only that will satisfy me!”
: You might not be able to tell, but Maya just slapped her.
: “Don’t… don’t you EVER treat death like a joke! You have the power to change your own environment! Your own future! Shrugging that off and saying you’d rather die just shows how immature you are!”
: I feel like that one guide author who went hardcore Christian fundamentalist kind of missed this entire exchange when he said the game promoted death and suicide. Anyway, this next part is kinda wild if you think about it.
: So you might think “Oh, Ixquic’s a zoomer”… only this is taking place in 1999. Maya (born 1976) and Yukino (1979) are both firmly Generation X. Tatsuya (1981) and Eikichi and Lisa (both 1982) are both borderline depending on whether your cutoff date for Gen X is.
: Ixquic is a millennial. Atlus was making boomer jokes about millennials YEARS before anyone came up with that term. Incidentally, Ixquic is a few years older than I am (she’d be 33 or 34 today).
: It was this fight where I was very, very glad I fused Gullinbursti. You’ll notice we have a couple of new fusion spells available.
: One of them (which I did capture later on) is Craggy Fang, which is the Earth equivalent of Mega Blaze. Belphegor is very weak to Earth (something the wiki gets wrong) and so we have our primary tool to use against him.
: Ixquic’s Persona is Reverse Pairika, and she spends most of her turns casting Magarula on the party for 20-30 damage each time.
: Incidentally, and I kind of forgot to mention this up to now, most of the enemies in this game have had their stats cut from what they were in the PS1 version. Belphegor and Ixquic were among the most heavily nerfed, having their magic stats cut in half and then some.
: Oh right, here’s Craggy Fang in action.
: Here’s my auto setup for this fight. You’ll notice that Yukino and Eikichi have been hit much harder than everyone else. This is because at this point, Belphegor was mostly using his single-target physical attack (which hits for about 30 damage) as opposed to using Magryva (second-tier gravity spell) which hits the entire party.
: I did have to stop to heal at one point, because Belphegor decided to start using Magryva and nearly killed Maya off. One interesting touch is that like your characters, Ixquic has a different idle animation when she’s low on HP.
: We were already a bit overlevelled coming into Smile Hirasaka, and now we’re even moreso. The enemy levels don’t change a whole lot in the next dungeon.
: Maya somehow casts a healing spell, which is funny because the only person in the party with a heal spell right now is Eikichi.
: “Is it okay to let this chica be? She didn’t seem very sorry… I wouldn’t be surprised if she came back to harass us again.”
: “She must never have had any proper adults play with her… Don’t worry! If that ever happens, I take full responsibility.”
: “Hmm… the first line is the same as before, so the only question is the rest of it. Going by the same logic as before, the sign of water that presides over death and rebirth…”
: “That would be Scorpio. In other words, head north by northeast from Seven Sisters High, so the next target is Yumezaki!”
: “Good job, Eriko! We can take it from here now that we have an idea where to go.”
: “The way to El Dorado opens from dream’s cape… El Dorado, huh? It translates to “golden one”… is there anywhere in Yumezaki with a name like that?”
: Next time on 24:
Hahahahahaha am I the only one who saw Lich’s sprite at first and thought it was a dude in a kayak? Imagine you’re fighting demons trying to defuse this bomb in a building and you see some guy in a kayak sliding down the hall at you.
Because Buddha isn’t the head deity of Buddhism. He’s definitely an important teacher and religious figure, and shouldn’t be such an early game Persona, but he’s not the god of of Buddhism. That’d be Brahma, the Self-born, Svayambhu. They’re the creator god of the various ancient historical Vedic religions, of which Buddhism is one of. It’s called Buddhism because the Buddha was the guy who though about and taught it.
When the winter months roll around the only thing you have to do is drink, eat, and look at animals, you start to believe Snorri when he tells you the boar he was chasing down called him a flaccid dick head- if only because it’s something to laugh about with your friends.
My best guess on this one is that due to originally being an Israelite god of orgies and stuff like that, Christian depictions included the toilet as a way of presenting him as gross and unclean. They also consider him the demon of sloth, and… I guess sitting on the can having a think about inventions is slothful? Look demonology is weird.
I… I can’t tell if you’re being truthful the internet makes tone impossible. God, I feel old now… either that or very stupid.
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: Previously, on 24, we blew up Smile Hirasaka and then Jack Bauer waterboarded time itself to send him back in time to save it. Just as Elly said, our next destination is Yumezaki… for a sidequest.
: Fuyuko would be the person you’d get the quest for Hanako from back at the start of the game… if we hadn’t accidentally skipped it.
: Oh god I’m scared already. If hours upon hours of anime are right, Kansai is like the New Jersey of Japan.
: To get the rumor for the sidequest, we need to pick “Not at all”. I mean, I dunno, New Jersey is pretty scary.